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  1. Do you beat your wife?

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  2. Sarah would be ASHAMEDJanuary 9, 2009 at 8:31 PM

    "Do you beat your wife?"

    Why, are you thinking about his wife with lust in your heart, sinner?

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  3. I wish I had a wife.

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  4. no bill, I beat YOUR wife

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  5. I beat myself over your wife

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  6. 1. Who is Bill Collier?

    (a). One of two men who interrupted a speech by Hillary Clinton by yelling, "Iron my shirt! Iron my shirt!"
    (b). The formerly gay gospel singer who advocates "curing" homosexuality with prayer, and whose performances at Obama-sponsored events upset gays and liberals.
    (c). The PA reporter who asked, "Don't Mormons believe that Jesus and the Devil are brothers?"
    (d). The Iowa college student planted in the audience by the Palin campaign to ask the candidate a question that she was eager to answer.
    (e). The concerned citizen who started a petition drive against giving the Congressional Medal of Honor to Rosa Parks.
    (f). The supporter who, referring to Hillary Clinton, asked John McCain, "How do we beat the bitch?"

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  7. I nearly had a heart attack when one of you goons put "Pied Piper" in the subject of your forum discussion. I can't imagine what Bill felt. And all the "From a Buddhist perspective, peeing in a lake, I spent $160.00 out of my own pocket to start an alternative chat," etc... posts have us all peeing in our pants.

    My mom's a Grizzly.

    And I love her for it.

    And the following e-mail has been bouncing around behind the scene for months. It's a bit Geritol and long winded, but I thought you might enjoy it.


    --- On Mon, 3/19/09, <@gmail.com> wrote:

    From: <@gmail.com>
    Subject: Fw: Help get Team Sarah back!
    To: " " <@aol.com>
    Date: Monday, March 19, 2009, 9:05 PM



    --- On Mon, 2/20/09,
    <@yahoo.com> wrote:

    From: <@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Help get Team Sarah back!
    To: " " <@gmail.com>
    Date: Monday, April 20, 2009, 6:24 PM


    Dearest ,

    Radical Islamic fundamentalism is not a religion. It's a fanatical point of view. Radical Christian fundamentalism is not a religion. It, too, is a fanatical point of view. Remember, , when radical pro-lifers were shooting abortion doctors in the back? IN THE BACK! Remember how long it took our movement to recover from that? Remember the hit we took from Falwell's 9/11 Teletubbie remark? Think of the babies, , think of the babies! This is why it is imperative that we separate Governor Palin from the TS zealots. Here's the e-mail I received from :


    The following was posted shortly after Bill's popular "framing attempt" blog. He was at the height of his popularity and decided the time was right to mold TS into upadaria. He floated the idea with this blog and it flopped. Again! Nevertheless, he took it upon himself to turn TS into upadaria whether we wanted to be upadarians or not. The purge of real TS members who did not share his "circle of friends" beliefs began under the pretense of cleaning out the trolls.

    The (first) paragraph only applies to members who agree with him. Everyone else is "censored." This is not conjecture. The (second) paragraph shows his firm belief that TS should not be a site for open debate (then how do you explain having a forum, Bill?). It also contradicts the (first) paragraph's sentence about "censoring" and is in direct contradiction to the (third) paragraph below it.

    The (fourth) paragraph iterates his belief that TS should not be a site for open debate and, furthermore, any such thing is in "poor taste." The (fifth) paragraph iterates his belief that "we" did not join TS for debate (What? Just try dropping the forum section, Bozo).

    The (sixth) and concluding paragraph is rich. How many times have we seen the same people, over and over again, break every community rule and get away with it? "Outsiders" who even question this disparity are booted. And yes, "even children know how rude that is." Maybe someone should tell that to the zealot clique.

    Our site has been hijacked by Bill and the fanatics. We are infuriated and have spoken with our purses. Help us get our site back. Send PMs to the founders. And stop donating.

    Our Right To Free Association

    * Posted by Bill Collier (TS-CGA) on January 10, 2009 at 2:42pm
    * View Bill Collier (TS-CGA)'s blog

    William R Collier Jr

    NOTE: the sock puppets who have been SPAMMING our forums and chat are a last ditch efforts by a pathetic group of weak people who do not respect our freedom of assembly but by exposing their identities and taking away their anonymity we will defeat them.

    The 1st Amendment- Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

    Those whose ideas have no merit in an of themselves resort to efforts to deny us our freedom to assemble together with like minded people in order to promote our ideas and find ways to help one another advance our cause.

    As I see it, as JUST ANOTHER MEMBER (my role here does not make any different than anyone else, and I am writing as Bill Collier a MEMBER) our cause is:

    1.Supporting Sarah Palin

    2. supporting Pro Life Issues

    3. supporting the participation of pro life women in the political process

    4 supporting and participating in other causes or issues that are consistent with those principles and values

    I cam here, at my wife's urging, for the first 3 causes primarily. I beleive in Sarah Palin. Period.

    I am pro life, I beleive life begins at conception. Period.

    I strongly believe in the role of pro-life women, especially conservative women, in the political process and believe that they should be just as important to the cause, as leaders, as men. I know pro life women are awesome, I married one!

    (first) We have a sacred right to freedom of assembly. This means that we cannot be censored, neither by preventing us from communicating our views to the outside world nor by preventing us from even having a conversation amongst ourselves within our own community.

    (second) Nobody has a right to come to your house, and this is our home, and insist that you allow them to disagree with you and that you focus your attention on debating them instead of focusing on advancing the beliefs you have already come to believe.

    (third) Government regulation of what political views are acceptable or not is censorship. When or if a government prohibits a private group from making a shared set of goals or beliefs by its members a condition of membership that is censorship.

    (fourth) It is at best in poor taste to insist on being a member of a community and then engaging in debating what that community believes, it is like stepping in between two people and insisting that they talk to you instead of each other.

    It is dirty tricks and unethical to come into an assembly of people and deliberately disrupt, whether by spamming it with content that violates its terms of use or by saying, when you join, that you support the community's aims and then arguing, even if in a subtle way, against those values and beliefs.

    (fifth) The next time someone tells you that unless you let them interrupt our conversation here and shift into a debate, which we did not come here for, tell them to read the whole first amendment and ignore them. If they persist and will not stop harassing you or your chat, group, or forum, I would report them for being disruptive.

    (sixth) You have a right to have the conversations you want to have and nobody has a right to disrupt you or those who you are with to make themselves or their disagreement with what you belief the center of attention- even children know that how rude that is!

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    T Mackenzie Comment by T Mackenzie on January 10, 2009 at 5:00pm
    Bill, with all you and the other moderators have gone through over the last month, you must feel boiled to the bone. But your responses to the criticism and the firestorm of media coverage has been impressive, inspirational, and right on the mark. I think you and Emily have done a darn good job preserving this site against witless, self-serving negativity, from all sides.

    You are right in stating that this is not a forum for debate. It is a forum for discussion and reflection on what is positive about Sarah and her future, and what this means to all Americans, whether they vote for her or not. There are many other internet venues for people to rant and vent about issues having nothing to do with Sarah specifically, or which denigrate Sarah, or McCain or Obama or Muslims or Jews or African Americans, or whomever. One does not need to come on to Team Sarah to chew on those bones, especially if Sarah herself has not specifically addressed certain topics. In my opinion, this detracts from the site. There are other internet options available.

    Anyone who is not interested in either promoting Sarah, respectfully learning more about Sarah, or at the least, offering CONSTRUCTIVE suggestions about what might benefit Sarah (a slippery slope, I know) should not be on this site, or allowed on this site.

    It’s your ‘living room,’ not any one else’s. Do not be afraid of denying a chair to, or questioning those who seek entrance to, the room. That’s not censorship, it’s very much ‘freedom of association.’

    I have felt to be very well treated here, as an Obama voter and a liberal Christian, by all who have responded to me. I am learning a lot. Thank you all for the opportunity.

    Mary Hughes Comment by Mary Hughes on January 10, 2009 at 4:49pm
    Oh, Linda that was so beautifully stated. Thank you. I consider myself so fortunate to have the love of Jesus to fill my soul. With God for us who can be against us. Everyone please pray for Israel. God bless you.

    Linda Comment by Linda on January 10, 2009 at 3:08pm
    I agee. If you are secure in what you believe, you do not have to bother with those who feel differently.
    You do not worry what others think of you----i.e. Gov Palin.
    But if you have doubts about yourself, you may want to be an agitator. You may have forgotten how to feel the calmness of the source we all come from inside of you. So you try to make others doubt themselves and when they do not, you get upset and more scared.
    The funny thing is that source of where we came from is always inside of us, you just have to be still and listen.
    It does not matter to me what you want to call that source inside of you.
    Water is water, no matter what language you use to name it.
    I know people who are scared of this. And some of them I love more than life itself. They have been so beaten down that they do not feel they deserve it. We all deserve to be happy and free to believe in ourselves.
    Palin represents someone who is at peace with herself, this really upsets those who want chaos and disorder so the government can tell us what to do.
    Doesn't Obama want the government to fix things, and not us----WE THE PEOPLE.
    The people who want our government to be socialist want the government to be the source for all of our needs.
    They want to make us question what is already inside of all of us and can not be taken away. Socialistim does not want anything to influence us other than the government. What a sad power they want. They may get their power, but I know God is inside of me and you. We are all connected that way.

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  8. contacted TS founders with lots of info on BC. They did nothing.

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